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Boeing, para que tá ficando feio.

É no débito ou no crédito a vergonha?

 

Pracaba viu.

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Se foi só um passarinho que derrubou 2 aviões, porque os Max seguem groundeados?

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https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/05/21/boeing-shares-rise-after-report-that-a-bird-strike-may-have-caused-737-max-crash.html

 

Boeing shares rise after report that a bird strike may have caused 737 Max crash
Leslie Josephs | @lesliejosephs
Published 42 Mins Ago Updated 8 Mins Ago
CNBC.com
Boeing shares rose Tuesday after a Wall Street Journal report said U.S. aviation officials believe a bird strike may have caused the crash of a 737 Max in Ethiopia in March.
The fast-selling Boeing 737 Max airplanes have been grounded since shortly after that accident, which came less than five months after a similar crash in Indonesia. Together, both crashes killed a combined 346 people.
Boeing shares were up 2.1% in premarket trading.
Crash investigators have indicated that bad sensor data triggered an anti-stall system aboard the Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737 that went down shortly after takeoff in March, a similar scenario to a crash of the same type of plane in Indonesia in October. The system automatically pushes the nose of the plane down if it perceives the aircraft is in a stall, the normal way to recover from such a position. That can be fatal if the plane is not in a stall, however.
U.S. aviation officials think a bird strike is the likely culprit in erroneous sensor data that fed the anti-stall system in the Ethiopian Airlines crash, according to the Wall Street Journal report, which cited sources familiar with the crash investigation.

 

 

que loucura

 

estão fazendo pumping & dumping com a tragédia humana

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Tem que rezar todo dia pra Boeing saber o que está fazendo na gestão dessa crise, putz grila

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A Boeing ficou cega pela perspectiva de lucro e esqueceu de onde ele vem.

 

737 com gambiarra (mal feita) pra tentar render como um A320 NEO, e sendo homologado na base do lobby

787 com problemas de qualidade

E agora tentando se eximir de uma culpa que é obviamente dela.

 

Há algo de muito errado nos escritórios de Seattle...

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Bird Strike, çei.

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que loucura

 

estão fazendo pumping & dumping com a tragédia humana

Mercado de ação é exatamente isso. Pumping and Dumping enquanto pode para "resgatar" o capital que podem. Um bird strike, algo relativamente "normal", causar o mal funcionamento de um safety critical system é no minimo vergonhoso.

Não é que nem atingir gansos canadenses a 2500ft de altura sobre New York no inverno e ter ambos os motores danificados e incapazes de gerar tração.

 

Eu acredito que ao término do AD e o 73M voltar a voar, o CEO e boa parte dos gestores responsaveis pelo MCAS saiam da empresa.

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AAAH TÁ um bird strike agora num AoA sensor justifica um crash, tá tudo bem agora então galera

 

É como justificar a queda do AF447 com o simples congelamento do pitot

 

Essa é a versão oposta do "não houve feridos" numa arremetida (mas como opinião de leigo tá fora da casinha)

 

Já dizia o nazi Joseph Goebbels durante a Segunda Guerra Mundial: “Uma mentira repetida mil vezes torna-se verdade”. E americano é bom nisso, a história conta.

 

Imagino o que passa na cabeça das famílias que perderam seus entes queridos ao ler um absurdo desses.

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Exclusive: U.S. airlines expect Boeing 737 MAX jets need up to 150 hours of work before flying again

 

MAY 23, 2019

 

Once regulators approve Boeing Co’s grounded 737 MAX jets for flight, each aircraft will likely require between 100 and 150 hours of preparation before flying, officials from the three U.S. airlines that operate the MAX told Reuters.

 

The estimate, provided to Reuters by American Airlines Group Inc, United Airlines and Southwest Airlines Co officials, is the first indication of the time needed to bring the jets out of storage following a worldwide grounding in March spurred by deadly crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia.

 

The preparations were discussed at a meeting between Boeing and MAX customers in Miami earlier this week, and include a list of items ranging from fluid changes and engine checks to uploading new 737 MAX software. The estimated time frame does not include pilot training, they said.

 

Southwest is the world’s largest MAX operator with 34 jets, followed in the United States by American Airlines with 24 and United with 14. All three have dozens more on order, meant to service booming air travel demand.

 

Boeing did not comment on the airlines’ MAX maintenance estimate, but spokesman Paul Bergman said the company’s maintenance and engineering teams have been working with customers to determine how to efficiently stage work once regulators approve the fleet’s return to service.

The process has included work with Boeing’s supply chain to ensure key parts “are available for current maintenance tasks and the fleet’s transition from storage and preservation activities to operational flight,” he said.

 

Airline officials stressed that jets would only be removed from storage once regulators approve Boeing’s software update, meant to fix a system called MCAS that played a role in both crashes, which together killed 346 people.

 

U.S. Federal Aviation Administration Chief Dan Elwell, who is meeting with global regulators in Texas on Thursday, said on Wednesday there is no time table to approve the plane for flight.

 

Boeing has yet to formally submit the fix to the FAA.

 

Officials said it usually takes 80 hours to put one jet into storage. For removal, the process is reversed and requires additional maintenance work and testing. For the MAX, it will also include uploading and testing the software fix.

PILOT TRAINING

 

The allotted 100 to 150 hours of jet preparation comes on top of the hours needed for pilot training. Regulators are still debating whether pilots should test the crash scenarios in a simulator, which would cost airlines more time and money than Boeing’s proposed computer-based training.

 

Boeing has said that simulator training is not necessary for the 737 MAX, and is recommending a mandatory computer-based audio course that explains MCAS and could be completed at a pilot’s home in about an hour, according to pilot unions.

 

The planemaker has also offered supplemental training that includes a video on emergency checklists, though some regulators and pilots are pushing for either immediate or continuing simulator training.

 

Ultimately each airline will be responsible for developing its own training regime based on its different needs.

 

So far U.S. airlines have canceled MAX flights into July and August, taking a hit to revenues during the busy summer travel season, and will need to decide soon whether to extend cancellations given the uncertain regulatory timeline, officials said.

 

Southwest has parked its MAX jets at a facility in the California desert, while American has parked 14 of its 24 jets in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where it plans to prepare the jets for flight once regulators give the green light.

Boeing will also have to ready roughly 30 MAX jets that it is storing across the Seattle area, with wheels and engines wrapped in plastic, before delivering them to customers.

 

The planemaker is also storing MAX jets at a maintenance base in Texas. Deliveries were halted following the worldwide grounding.

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As empresas vão botar pressão sim. Inclusive a Aeromexico pensa em pedir compensação financeira por lucros cessantes!

 

https://simpleflying.com/aeromexico-boeing-737-max-compensation/

 

Ta feia a coisa...

Tomara mesmo que cobrem,se foram negligentes,gananciosos,tem que pagar pelas vidas que se foram

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Boeing offers services and cash to make Max operators whole

 

29 MAY, 2019 SOURCE: FLIGHT DASHBOARD BY: JON HEMMERDINGER BOSTON

Boeing’s compensation to airlines for the 737 Max grounding could include aircraft services, training support, adjusted delivery schedules or simply cash, the company’s chief executive Dennis Muilenburg said on 29 May.

 

His comments, made during an investor conference hosted by AllianceBernstein, shed light on how Boeing might mollify airlines for the cost and logistic headaches caused by removing the 737 Max from their operations and fleet plans.

 

“Obviously, our customers’ fleet schedules have been interrupted by the Max” grounding, Muilenburg says. “There are number of different ways that we can address these issues.”

 

"In some cases, it's services and training support. In some cases, there are other currencies that we can trade with customers,” Muilenburg adds. “In some cases, cash may be part of the solution.”

 

He does not specify how much compensation Boeing might end up owning in the end, but suggests the amount will not significantly impact Boeing’s finances, which the 737 Max grounding has already depressed.

 

“I don’t see this as an additional material event for us,” Muilenburg says.

 

Boeing's first quarter net profit dipped 13% year-on-year to $2.1 billion, and the Max grounding already added $1 billion in 737 Max programme costs, the company reported in April.

 

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A recent report from Morgan Stanley says most compensation owed by Boeing will relate to 737 Max that were already in service when the grounding took effect. The FAA pegged that number at 387 aircraft operated by 59 airlines.

 

But the total number of affected aircraft is much higher due to Boeing’s halt in deliveries. Boeing had been producing 737s (NGs and Max) at about 52 monthly earlier this year, but has delivered only 20 737NGs since early March, suggesting the number of undelivered 737 Max in the last two-and-a-half months could be about 110 aircraft.

 

Boeing has continued producing 737s, though at a reduced 42-per-month rate, since April and is storing 737 Max aircraft until the grounding is lifted.

 

Morgan Stanley estimates Boeing will have about 150 737 Max stored by mid-year, assuming the grounding remains in place.

 

Clearing that backlog will take time, Muilenburg says, noting different countries’ regulators may lift the grounding at different times. Some airlines, having already adjusted their summer flight schedules to account for the grounding, may choose to further delay deliveries, though other airlines might want more aircraft quicker, Muilenburg says.

 

Morgan Stanley says airlines may not have resources, such as available pilots, to receive all those stored aircraft at once. It estimates Boeing could possibly clear its backlog by year-end – again, assuming regulators clear the 737 Max to fly relatively quickly.

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United to seek compensation for 737 Max grounding

 

30 MAY, 2019 SOURCE: FLIGHT DASHBOARD BY: EDWARD RUSSELL NEW YORK

 

United Airlines will seek some form of compensation from Boeing for the impact of the 737 Max grounding, says chief executive Oscar Munoz.

 

"There will be recompense of some sort over time," he says at New York's LaGuardia airport today. "The discussion of that is a bit early. Let's get that aircraft back to flight safely."

 

Chicago-based United has not specified the financial impact of the grounding, which took effect in March and affected United's 14 in-service 737 Max 9s. The grounding forced United to cancel flights starting in April, and the company recently extended Max-related cancellations until 3 August. It has reduced capacity growth by a percentage point, to up 4-5%, in 2019.

 

The cumulative cancellations will impact roughly 3,440 United flights from April through July – around 0.5% of its global schedule during the period.

 

Munoz's comments come one day after Boeing chief executive Dennis Muilenburg said the airframer would "address" the impact of the grounding on Max customers. Potential remedies include "services and training support" as well as cash payments, he said.

 

Boeing has completed testing a software update to the 737 Max's manoeuvring characteristics augmentation system (MCAS), which investigators have implicated as a factor in both the Ethiopian Airlines and Lion Air 737 Max crashes. Global regulators will begin evaluating the update shortly but none have said when they expect to allow 737 Max back in the sky.

 

When the Max does return to service, regaining passenger confidence will be critical. Munoz acknowledges this, saying earlier this month he will lead by example, flying aboard United's first 737 Max flight following re-certification.

 

"It's important to recognise that the flying public is going to have a perception," he says today. "Whatever it takes for us to get the public to see it as safe is going to be important."

 

Munoz does not elaborate on what United could offer passengers to regain trust in the Max.

 

Southwest Airlines, the largest US operator of the aircraft with 34 737 Max 8s when the type was suspended, recently acknowledged a crisis of confidence by replacing joint 737-800/Max 8 safety cards with cards that do not mention the 737 Max.

 

The Dallas-based carrier has said the grounding and other factors reduced its net profit by $150 million in the first quarter. It has removed the Max from schedules through 5 August.

 

Munoz says the Max situation does not impact United's interest in the 737 Max 10, for which it is launch customer, or Boeing's proposed new mid-market airplane, which could fly around 2025 if approved by Boeing.

 

"We've always said we thought the [Max] was safe in the hands of our pilots," he says. "I trust my pilots implicitly – period, end of sentence – in the way they've been trained."

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Boeing Built Deadly Assumptions Into 737 Max, Blind to a Late Design Change

 

After Boeing removed one of the sensors from an automated flight system on its 737 Max, the jets designers and regulators still proceeded as if there would be two.

 

By Jack Nicas, Natalie Kitroeff, David Gelles and James Glanz

June 1, 2019

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/01/business/boeing-737-max-crash.html

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Regulador americano afirma que alguns Boeing 737 Max podem ter peças com defeito

Um total de 312 aviões pode ter recebido até 148 componentes fora de conformidade, que terão de ser substituídos

 

 

https://oglobo.globo.com/economia/regulador-americano-afirma-que-alguns-boeing-737-max-podem-ter-pecas-com-defeito-23713484

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Boeing Ordered to Replace 737 Wing Parts Prone to Cracking
  • Manufacturer discovered issue and reported it to U.S. FAA
  • As many as 312 planes worldwide must get emergency checks

Airlines worldwide must inspect 312 of Boeing Co.’s 737 family of aircraft, including some of the grounded 737 Max, because they have wing components that are prone to cracking and must be repaired within 10 days, U.S. aviation regulators said Sunday.

 

Boeing informed the Federal Aviation Administration that so-called leading edge slat tracks may not have been properly manufactured and pose a safety risk, the agency said in an emailed statement. The parts allow the wing to expand to create more lift during takeoff and landing.

 

The FAA plans to issue an order calling for operators of the planes worldwide to identify whether the deficient parts were installed and to replace them, if needed. A complete failure wouldn’t lead to a loss of the aircraft, the FAA said, but could cause damage during flight.

 

Boeing has notified operators of the planes about the needed repairs and is sending replacement parts to help minimize the time aircraft are out of service, the company said in a statement. The slat tracks in question were made by a supplier to Spirit AeroSystems Holdings Inc., Boeing said in an email.

Boeing has identified 148 parts made by a subcontractor that are affected. The parts may be on a total of 179 737 Max aircraft and 133 737 NG planes worldwide, including 33 Max and 32 NG aircraft in the U.S., the FAA said.

 

The NG, or Next Generation, 737s are a predecessor to the Max family.

 

The deficient parts may be on fewer of the identified planes, Boeing said. While the full number of jets must be inspected, 20 Max and 21 NG aircraft are “most likely” to have the suspect parts installed, according to the company.

 

The 737 Max has been grounded worldwide since March 13 after two fatal crashes tied to a malfunction that caused a flight control system to repeatedly drive down the plane’s nose. Boeing is finalizing a software fix along with proposed new training that will be required before the planes fly again.

 

Fonte: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-02/boeing-ordered-to-replace-737-wing-components-prone-to-cracking

 

 

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Será que aeronaves da Gol foram afetadas também? Por esse novo problema dos slats?

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Airline chiefs concerned over varying 737 Max timelines

 

02 JUNE, 2019 SOURCE: FLIGHT DASHBOARD BY: GHIM-LAY YEO SEOUL

 

A lack of harmony in when global regulators lift the grounding on the Boeing 737 Max will further complicate the plans of international carriers to restore the troubled aircraft to revenue service, say airline chiefs during a lively panel debate at the IATA's World Air Transport Summit in Seoul today.

 

Carriers operating in large countries like the USA and Canada may operate the aircraft on domestic routes after their regulators allow the 737 Max to return to the skies, but Singapore Airlines doesn't have "the luxury", said the carrier's chief executive Goh Choon Phong.

 

 

"Everything I operate is international," he says. "Beyond having the approvals of authorities in Singapore, we would need approvals of other countries we operate to."

 

Singapore Airlines' subsidiary SilkAir has six 737 Max 8s on the ground. The carrier would require a "minimum viable set of countries" allowing the 737 Max to fly in order for the aircraft to return to service with SilkAir, says Goh.

 

Uncertainty remains over when the global grounding on the 737 Max will be lifted. The US Federal Aviation Administration, which was the last major regulator to ground the aircraft, has been criticised for not taking action earlier. Concerns continue to linger over whether the regulator allowed the 737 Max to be rushed through certification.

 

Lufthansa's chief executive Carsten Spohr indicates that while the FAA may allow the aircraft to return to service, other regulators might not so quickly follow suit.

 

"It would be difficult to explain to passengers that the aircraft is safe in some parts of the world but not safe elsewhere," he says.

 

The aftermath of the 737 Max grounding has upended long-held assumptions over the role played by the FAA in contributing to today's aviation safety track record, says JetBlue chief executive Robin Hayes.

 

"It's an issue bigger than the Max," he says. "People start to question the regulatory framework that has been largely successful in promoting a safer industry."

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Eastar counts the costs of Max grounding

 

02 JUNE, 2019 SOURCE: FLIGHT DASHBOARD BY: ALFRED CHUA SEOUL

As airlines across the world count the cost of the ensuing grounding of the Boeing 737 Max, Eastar Jet, South Korea’s first carrier to take delivery of the type, has been forced to pause the launch of some new routes.

 

Eastar assistant manager Daniel Woo says that the airline's two 737 Max 8s would have been the ideal aircraft for longer routes in its network, such as Singapore-Busan, as well as Seoul-Phu Quoc.

 

The Singapore route, in particular, had been planned to launch in June, but is now on hold until the Max returns to the skies. Eastar vice-president Moon Jongbae says he wants to begin flying the route by the end of the year.

 

He adds that the airline could use its 737-800s on the route but would have to restrict the number of seats it sells, which would affect its profitability.

 

“In the summer, [we can only fill] 80%, and in winter, 70%,” Moon says of operating the flight with a 737NG

 

“It will impact the profitability of the route. If we use the [737-800], I cannot expect a profit on this route…[maybe only after] three to four years,” he adds, responding to FlightGlobal’s question on the impact of the Max’s grounding on the route.

 

Cirium’s Fleets Analyzer shows that Eastar operates 16 737-800s, along with two 737-900ERs.

 

Its two 737 Max 8s are now parked at Seoul Incheon airport, and Eastar continues to pay parking fees and lease rentals on them. Fleets Analyzer shows the two aircraft are leased from Minsheng Financial Leasing.

 

Woo says the airline hopes that the aircraft gets back into the skies by July or August.

 

As a result of the route suspensions, it has shifted focus on flights from Seoul and Busan to other cities such as to Bangkok, Kota Kinabalu, as well as to Japan.

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Ethiopian will be 'last' airline to resume Max flights: chief

 

01 JUNE, 2019 SOURCE: FLIGHT DASHBOARD BY: OLIVER CLARK SEOUL

 

Ethiopian Airlines will be the last airline globally to resume flights with the Boeing 737 Max once it has been certified to return to the skies.

 

Speaking at the IATA annual general meeting in Seoul today, Ethiopian chief executive Tewolde Gebremariam told reporters that the African carrier will only restart flights with the type "after the regulators decide and when we see airlines start flying it", adding: "We will be the last one".

 

Three months after the 10 March accident involving flight ET302, Gebremariam says it is too early to make a judgement on the Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) investigation into the cause of the crash as it is "still a work in progress".

 

"Lets see how they [the FAA] are going to handle it. Lets see the complete solution and also the certification, lets also see if they can convince the other regulators - then we can only make an opinion," he says.

 

Gebremariam says that Ethiopian Airlines has been a "long-time, Boeing-only customer" in the past, and while he would like to "maintain" that relationship, the "very tragic" Max crash will have "its own impact" on it.

 

He agreed that he was frustrated by the comments made by the FAA about the airline's pilots who were flying the aircraft, adding that the airline had made its position "clear" through press releases and public statements.

 

Gebremariam says at present the Addis Ababa-based carrier has no plans to alter its pilot training programme. He also asserts that the pilots who died in the crash will be ultimately be exonerated in the investigations.

 

Commenting on reports that one of its pilots has allegedly repeatedly warned senior management that its crew needed more training and better communication to crew members on the aircraft following the Lion Air crash in October 2018, Gebramariam says: "Its a very long story, that pilot had a problem for more than a year with us, so we had to terminate his contract."

 

He says the Star Alliance airline has "not yet decided" when it will take delivery of the remaining Max jets it has on order. Cirium's Fleets Analyzer shows the carrier has four Max 8s in storage and another 25 on order.

 

He also says the airline has not calculated the financial impact that the grounding of the type has had on its operations.

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