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AerCap cancels 15 MAX jets, urges Airbus and Boeing output cuts

JULY 29, 2020

Leasing giant AerCap (AER.N) said on Wednesday it had cancelled 15 orders for the grounded Boeing (BA.N) 737 MAX aircraft as it slows the pace of new plane deliveries to weather the coronavirus crisis.

Announcing the cancellations - which leave 80 of the MAX jets still on its order books - the world’s largest aircraft owner also called for more production cuts by Boeing and rival Airbus (AIR.PA) to help balance the jet market.

AerCap, which has deferred dozens more MAX deliveries, said it remains uncertain when the five MAX planes already on lease will return to service, as regulators review changes to the jet after two fatal crashes.

U.S. authorities said last week they expect to give a green light in the “near future”. As a result, AerCap reached agreement with Boeing this month to restructure its order book, it said on Wednesday.

AerCap boss Aengus Kelly called for a further aircraft manufacturing slowdown as he reported a drop in second-quarter net income to $246 million from $331 million a year earlier, amid a global travel slump unleashed by the pandemic.

“I think we’ll see more production cuts both from Boeing and Airbus, to help us get to that equilibrium,” he said during an earnings call with analysts.

“I would be hopeful that tomorrow when Airbus release their results we’ll see another production cut there,” the AerCap CEO said. Airbus declined to comment ahead of its own results announcement on Thursday.

Leasing firms are traditionally conservative about production to preserve the value of their fleets, but the call from the world’s largest lessor puts pressure on Airbus to defend output levels that some analysts consider too high.

AerCap said it was well placed to weather the coronavirus crisis thanks to its $27 billion in unencumbered assets and record-high liquidity including $3 billion in new funding.

“We have begun leasing airplanes again, but it’s almost exclusively focused on the European market,” Kelly said, adding that earlier signs of a U.S. travel rebound had since “run out of steam” amid new virus outbreaks and lockdowns.

Despite European reversals such as renewed British quarantine measures for Spanish arrivals, a recovery is now “well underway” in the region, Kelly said.

“No doubt there will be setbacks, but the willingness and the desire of the consumer to travel is very clear.”

 

Reporting by Padraic Halpin and Laurence Frost; Additional reporting by Tim Hepher; Editing by Alexandra Hudson and Jan Harvey

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aercap-hldg-boeing-idUSKCN24U1V7?taid=5f21910620fc0a00017587ae&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

 

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FAA Proposes Final Corrective Action for The Boeing 737 MAX

FAA Proposes Final Corrective Action for The Boeing 737 MAX
 

MIAMI – The FAA has issued a notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM). Its purpose is to supersede the previous Airworthiness Directive (AD) applying to Boeing 737 MAX airplanes.

Since the issuing of the 2018 AD, the agency has determined final corrective action for the aircraft to once again take flight. These actions are necessary to address the MAX’s unsafe condition.

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Boeing 737 MAX 8 airliner lifts off for its first flight on January 29, 2016 in Renton, Washington. The 737 MAX is the newest of Boeing’s most popular airliner featuring more fuel efficient engines and redesigned wings. Photo: Stephen Brashear/Getty Images.

LIST OF BOEING 737 MAX CORRECTIVE ACTIONS


The proposed AD would require Boeing to:

  • Install new flight control computer (FCC) software
  • Revise the existing Airplane Flight Manual (AFM) to incorporate new and revised flight Crew procedures.
  • Install a new MAX display system (MDS) software.
  • Change the horizontal stabilizer trim wire routing installations.
  • Complete an angle of attack sensor system test.
  • Perform an operational readiness flight.

According to the NPRM, the proposed AD would also apply to a narrower set of aircraft than the superseded AD.

It would also allow operation (dispatch) of an airplane with certain inoperative systems. However, it would do so only if the operator’s existing FAA-approved minimum equipment list (MEL) includes certain provisions.

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Boeing 737 MAX-9. Photo: Boeing

RESULTS FROM THE INVESTIGATION


On October 29, 2018, a Boeing 737-8 operated by Lion Air (JT) -Flight 610- was involved in an accident. It occurred after takeoff from Soekarno-Hatta International Airport (CGK) in Jakarta, Indonesia, resulting in 189 fatalities.

Indonesia’s Komite Nasional Keselamatan Transportasi (KNKT)) completed the investigation. It had the assistance of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), the US FAA, the manufacturer, and the operator.

Reports from the accident investigation indicate that the airplane’s flight
control system generated repeated airplane nose-down horizontal stabilizer trim commands that contributed to the accident.

Data from the flight data recorder indicated that a single erroneously high angle of attack (AOA) sensor input to the flight control system (while the flaps are retracted) can cause repeated airplane nose-down trim of the horizontal stabilizer and multiple flight deck effects.


Featured image: Boeing 737 MAX-9. Photo: Boeing

https://airwaysmag.com/manufacturer/faa-proposes-final-corrective-actions-for-the-boeing-737-max/

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https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/08/06/2020-17221/airworthiness-directives-the-boeing-company-airplanes

Tem a lista de modificações e a estimativa de horas/custo por avião, o FAA está abrindo uma consulta popular com prazo até 21/09/20, para depois dar o veredicto final.

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Enter Air to Purchase up to Four Boeing 737-8 Jets

WARSAW, Poland, Aug. 19, 2020 – Boeing [NYSE: BA] and Enter Air today announced the Polish airline is expanding its commitment to the 737 family with a new order for two 737-8 airplanes plus options for two more jets.

An all-Boeing operator and Poland’s biggest charter carrier, Enter Air began operations in 2010 with a single 737 airplane. Today, the airline’s fleet includes 22 Next-Generation 737s and two 737 MAX airplanes. When the new purchase agreement is fully exercised, Enter Air’s 737 MAX fleet will rise to 10 aircraft.

“Despite the current crisis, it is important to think about the future. To that end, we have agreed to order additional 737-8 aircraft. Following the rigorous checks that the 737 MAX is undergoing, I am convinced it will be the best aircraft in the world for many years to come,” said Grzegorz Polaniecki, general director and board member, Enter Air.

Enter Air and Boeing have also finalized a settlement to address the commercial impacts stemming from the grounding of the 737 MAX fleet. While the details of the agreement are confidential, the compensation will be provided in a number of forms and staggered over a period of time.

“In the settlement with Boeing, we agreed to revise the delivery schedule for the previously-ordered airplanes in response to current market conditions. The specific terms of the settlement are strictly confidential, but we are pleased with the way Boeing has treated us as its customer,” added Polaniecki.

“We are humbled by Enter Air’s commitment to the Boeing 737 family. Their order for additional 737-8s underscores their confidence in the airplane and the men and women of Boeing,” said Ihssane Mounir, senior vice president of Commercial Sales and Marketing, The Boeing Company. “We look forward to building on our decade-long partnership with Enter Air and working with the airline to safely return their full 737 fleet to commercial service.”

   https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=130724

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Boeing Instructions Detail Some Required 737 MAX Work

Sean Broderick August 18, 2020

Boeing’s detailed instructions for modifying 737 MAXs as part of the FAA’s planned requirements call for more than 200 work hrs. per aircraft, with most of the effort needed for addressing non-compliant wiring.

The FAA on Aug. 6 released its draft airworthiness directive covering most of the work that MAXs must undergo before being cleared to return to service. The draft rule lists three already-issued service bulletins (SB) that will be mandated, each requiring different modifications and, in one case, a comprehensive “readiness flight” to verify the aircraft are airworthy after months of inactivity. Other requirements, including modified flight-control computer (FCC) software and new pilot training, are still being finalized.

Most of the required work has no direct link to the two fatal accidents—Lion Air Flight 610 in October 2018 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 in March 2019—that led regulators to ground the fleet and Boeing to halt deliveries. Operators will spend up to 200 work hrs. per aircraft modifying wire bundles that do not meet electrical wiring interconnection system (EWIS) separation standards put in place in 2007 and applicable to the MAXs.

“A simultaneous short circuit between the [horizontal stabilizer arm], one of the [stabilizer control] signal lines, and a 28-volt direct current source, will cause uncommanded stabilizer movement, and potentially result in a stabilizer trim runaway,” Boeing explained in the service bulletin explaining the modifications. “Physical separation of Horizontal Stabilizer Arm and Control wiring implemented by these changes will ensure that uncommanded stabilizer motion and a stabilizer runaway cannot result from a single EWIS failure.”

Instructions differ slightly between the 737-8 and 737-9, but the general fix is the same. On the 737-8, it involves changing the routing of two existing bundles and installing five new ones so that separation standards are met in 12 different places. The work requires accessing the nose wheel well, forward cargo compartment, electrical and electronics compartment, and the rear fuselage area, or section 48. The new bundles add 2.6 lb. to the 737-8 and 3.2 lb. to the 737-9.

Boeing’s estimated work hours for the wiring changes vary based on the aircraft model and configuration, but range between 160-200 hrs. per aircraft—more than twice as long as the FAA’s draft-rule estimate of 79 hrs. per aircraft. The Boeing bulletin assumes most of the work will be done by four-man teams, suggesting each aircraft will require four-to-five days of work.

Another SB explains a MAX flight-deck display system (MDS) software update that changes how the MAX’s angle-of-attack (AOA) disagree alert functions. The change requires less than one hr. per aircraft.

A third SB covers an AOA sensor system test and an operational readiness flight. The AOA test should follow a MAX aircraft maintenance manual procedure added in July, the SB said. Estimated work hours for the test is 40 hrs., which Boeing breaks down into one five-person team working eight hrs.

The operational readiness flight, to be conducted after all other work is accomplished, includes “flaps retracted flight at or above 20,000 ft. Mean Sea Level,” the SB explained. System tests should begin during pre-flight, including brakes and steering, extend through the flight itself, and continue following arrival. The flight should use “normal procedures and appropriate supplementary procedures as needed,” Boeing said.

The bulletin does not specify flight conditions that would test the modified maneuvering characteristics augmentation system (MCAS) flight-control law implicated in both MAX accidents. Boeing estimated that the readiness-test process will take 50 combined working hrs., with a five-person crew working a 10-hr. stint.

Boeing released the wiring and MDS update instructions in June, and the AOA/readiness flight bulletin in July, following consolation with the FAA. Operators and Boeing have begun doing some of the required work in anticipation of the agency approving the MAX changes and clearing the model to return to revenue service sometime in the next few months. The global grounding forced airlines to park 385 in-service MAXs, and Boeing has more than 450 undelivered aircraft in storage awaiting delivery to customers.

The FAA’s draft directive’s public comment period runs until Sept. 21. The agency, which is not operating on a specific timeline, will then make necessary changes and issue a final version of the rule, incorporating the FCC software and training requirements.

https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/aircraft-propulsion/boeing-instructions-detail-some-required-737-max-work

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Enter Air to Purchase up to Four Boeing 737-8 Jets

WARSAW, Poland, Aug. 19, 2020 – Boeing [NYSE: BA] and Enter Air today announced the Polish airline is expanding its commitment to the 737 family with a new order for two 737-8 airplanes plus options for two more jets.

An all-Boeing operator and Poland’s biggest charter carrier, Enter Air began operations in 2010 with a single 737 airplane. Today, the airline’s fleet includes 22 Next-Generation 737s and two 737 MAX airplanes. When the new purchase agreement is fully exercised, Enter Air’s 737 MAX fleet will rise to 10 aircraft.

“Despite the current crisis, it is important to think about the future. To that end, we have agreed to order additional 737-8 aircraft. Following the rigorous checks that the 737 MAX is undergoing, I am convinced it will be the best aircraft in the world for many years to come,” said Grzegorz Polaniecki, general director and board member, Enter Air.

Enter Air and Boeing have also finalized a settlement to address the commercial impacts stemming from the grounding of the 737 MAX fleet. While the details of the agreement are confidential, the compensation will be provided in a number of forms and staggered over a period of time.

...

   https://boeing.mediaroom.com/news-releases-statements?item=130724

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Boeing divulga contrato com Enter Air para o modelo 737 MAX 8

A fabricante norte-americana Boeing anunciou que a companhia aérea Enter Air está expandindo seu compromisso com a família 737, com um novo pedido para receber dois aviões da nova versão MAX e opções para mais dois aparelhos do tipo. Maior operadora charter da Polônia, a empresa iniciou suas operações em 2010 com um único avião 737. Hoje, a frota da transportadora inclui 22 aviões 737NG e dois 737 MAX 8. As empresas também concluíram um acordo para lidar com os impactos comerciais decorrentes da manutenção em solo da frota do modelo. Embora os detalhes sejam confidenciais, a compensação será fornecida em várias formas e escalonada ao longo de um período de tempo.

Fonte: Revista FLAP Internacional

A própria Boeing tratou estas aeronaves como “737-8”

A Gol também utiliza “737-8”.

A palavra “MAX” parece que simplesmente desapareceu...

 

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13 minutes ago, jambock said:

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Boeing divulga contrato com Enter Air para o modelo 737 MAX 8

A fabricante norte-americana Boeing anunciou que a companhia aérea Enter Air está expandindo seu compromisso com a família 737, com um novo pedido para receber dois aviões da nova versão MAX e opções para mais dois aparelhos do tipo. Maior operadora charter da Polônia, a empresa iniciou suas operações em 2010 com um único avião 737. Hoje, a frota da transportadora inclui 22 aviões 737NG e dois 737 MAX 8. As empresas também concluíram um acordo para lidar com os impactos comerciais decorrentes da manutenção em solo da frota do modelo. Embora os detalhes sejam confidenciais, a compensação será fornecida em várias formas e escalonada ao longo de um período de tempo.

Fonte: Revista FLAP Internacional

A própria Boeing tratou estas aeronaves como “737-8”

A Gol também utiliza “737-8”.

A palavra “MAX” parece que simplesmente desapareceu...

 

Mas como o cliente que compra passagem saberá se é um B737-8 NG ou um B737-8 MAX se as empresas removerem o MAX , que diferenciava ambos 

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2 hours ago, Luckert said:

Mas como o cliente que compra passagem saberá se é um B737-8 NG ou um B737-8 MAX se as empresas removerem o MAX , que diferenciava ambos 

Esta é a intenção.

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3 hours ago, Luckert said:

Mas como o cliente que compra passagem saberá se é um B737-8 NG ou um B737-8 MAX se as empresas removerem o MAX , que diferenciava ambos 

Como eu acho que nunca vou voar nessa companhia da Polônia, não preciso saber as matrículas :lala: Preciso saber da GOL, XMA até XMG :cool:

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3 hours ago, Luckert said:

Mas como o cliente que compra passagem saberá se é um B737-8 NG ou um B737-8 MAX se as empresas removerem o MAX , que diferenciava ambos 

o ng é 737-800

o max é 737-8

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4 hours ago, jambock said:

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Boeing divulga contrato com Enter Air para o modelo 737 MAX 8

A fabricante norte-americana Boeing anunciou que a companhia aérea Enter Air está expandindo seu compromisso com a família 737, com um novo pedido para receber dois aviões da nova versão MAX e opções para mais dois aparelhos do tipo. Maior operadora charter da Polônia, a empresa iniciou suas operações em 2010 com um único avião 737. Hoje, a frota da transportadora inclui 22 aviões 737NG e dois 737 MAX 8. As empresas também concluíram um acordo para lidar com os impactos comerciais decorrentes da manutenção em solo da frota do modelo. Embora os detalhes sejam confidenciais, a compensação será fornecida em várias formas e escalonada ao longo de um período de tempo.

Fonte: Revista FLAP Internacional

A própria Boeing tratou estas aeronaves como “737-8”

A Gol também utiliza “737-8”.

A palavra “MAX” parece que simplesmente desapareceu...

 

Eles voltaram atrás. Um dos que foram fabricados foi flagrado com a escrita "Boeing 737 Max 8", porém mais discreta, no mesmo padrão do 737NG.

3 minutes ago, FCRO said:

o ng é 737-800

o max é 737-8

Mas muita gente (inclusive spotters) chamam o 737-800 de 737-8, então a diferença será nula, mas como o @MRN disse, a gente sabe qual é qual. 

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41 minutes ago, MRN said:

Como eu acho que nunca vou voar nessa companhia da Polônia, não preciso saber as matrículas :lala: Preciso saber da GOL, XMA até XMG :cool:

Mas não é essa questão, no site de vendas não fica o prefixo da aeronave, o cliente só descobre na h.

Se a aeronave for recertificada é porque está segura, porque então a empresa vai omitir que o 737 é um MAX moderno e não o 737 da versão anterior, parece que quer esconder, não ser transparente com o cliente.

 

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1 hour ago, Luckert said:

Mas não é essa questão, no site de vendas não fica o prefixo da aeronave, o cliente só descobre na h.

Se a aeronave for recertificada é porque está segura, porque então a empresa vai omitir que o 737 é um MAX moderno e não o 737 da versão anterior, parece que quer esconder, não ser transparente com o cliente.

Ok, se está recertificada está segura, concordo, mas como eu sei as matrículas, não embarco. Eu, particularmente, só embarco num MAX depois que ele tiver voado um ano (estou falando por mim, cada um com seu cada um)

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Aeronaves famosas tiveram um passado de acidentes causados por erros (Electra II e DC-10 vem na mente), mas depois que foram corrigidos, mostraram-se aeronaves seguras.

Creio que o MAX também estará na lista, mas fica a lição para a Boeing e a FAA: em aviação nunca se deve relaxar, mesmo quando considerado instituições sérias como a fabricante e o órgão.

Algumas empresas irão oferecer troca de graça para aqueles passageiros que não sentirem seguros de embarcar no MAX.

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É uma loucura imaginar que o Max volte a voar sem a essencial garantia de segurança à sua operação, simultaneamente preservando a reputação da Boeing. O DC-10 fez um 'estrago' muitíssimo maior e nem por isso deixou de ser um dos aviões favoritos dos passageiros e tripulantes (me refiro à Varig), além de ser muito seguro.

Ressalvas? Sim, mas referem-se ao treinamento dos pilotos e na qualidade da manutenção. O certo é que não há avião, por mais impecável que seja sua imagem, que não esteja sujeito a eventualidades das mais diversas. 

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9 hours ago, Luckert said:

Mas como o cliente que compra passagem saberá se é um B737-8 NG ou um B737-8 MAX se as empresas removerem o MAX , que diferenciava ambos 

mas não é pra saber mesmo.

lembra da oceanair com seus fokker 100 q foram chamados por Mk28 (q é a parte final do seu nome inteiro). Só pq os f100 não tiveram fama boa no brasil (erroneamente,  já que os 50 da JJ foram q levantaram a empresa para o q ela é agora)

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3 hours ago, MRN said:

Ok, se está recertificada está segura, concordo, mas como eu sei as matrículas, não embarco. Eu, particularmente, só embarco num MAX depois que ele tiver voado um ano (estou falando por mim, cada um com seu cada um)

o primeiro max voou (em cia aérea)  maio de 2017. O primeiro acidente foi outubro de 2018.

 

só para lembrar

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42 minutes ago, Stelios4K said:

o primeiro max voou (em cia aérea)  maio de 2017. O primeiro acidente foi outubro de 2018.

 

só para lembrar

Então vou esperar 2 anos 

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